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joe madison brian darling and vince kala bass will be just as the great debt debate right after the break. but it's twenty four seven live streaming news towns like to tell you about the ongoing financial hardship unlimited free high quality videos for download. and stories you never find one stream is. going to be. a political. posting more aren't just. for. fun. for.
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are you ready to rumble and so it's time for today's big picture of all right a bit the week's biggest stories of the panel of expert political commentators but i'm joined in the studio by have been scal an ace on page editor of the daily caller joe madison host of the joe madison show on sirius x.m. satellite radio which airs weekdays six to ten am eastern time a gentle one twenty eight and brian darling columnist of human events and contributor to red state dot com big government dot com and director of government studies at the heritage foundation welcome to. the house passed john boehner has built two hundred eighteen to two hundred sound it's week to buy but it's got some very very strange provisions in it this is the deal. no way according to harry reid
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the house of representatives. and. given that it has absolutely no chance of passing the house a why even bother and be the fact that it's got this. balanced budget amendment in it now and you know the commission and all of this that when the republicans totally drank and drank the the tea party kool-aid vince you know i think what you see is that especially the passage of a balanced budget and a pretty high goal very lofty and obviously the senate is not interested in going through the passage of a balanced budget amendment possibly never even it wouldn't pass it simply vote with a two thirds majority so what you have is a obviously a bill that is d.o.a. as you mentioned in the senate but there may be some reason obviously you have freshmen in the house who believe that they owe their constituency people who place them there or something and though it may be symbolic the truth is they're passing something this is the second time republicans of pass something and senate the senate has to take on one of those and the president still is holding out to
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present a plan of his own passing something. i've started to say on my show it's no longer the tea party it's that to keep the party although i understand there is a particular part. i don't want to take anything away from i mean you know they they should enjoy this victory but it's short lived let's let's just be honest and so now i think the big dogs in the senate and the house come to play because the senate the senate i would imagine before we finish this program we'll have voted it down and then the seniors will come together and try to reach some type of compromise that the president could sign and you're absolutely right this is a ploy to eighty's tea party freshmen. and their constituents and fair play grover norquist very fulfilled it may. it's
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a victory and i will say one other thing it does give them a slight it's in the gauche asians because they have got something but but not much not much at all so brian jo's point is really well taken out now john boehner is going to face probably the biggest test of his speakership because now he's going to sit down with the guys in the senate and work out something that both bodies can pass. and a do you think it's going to be something like this ok let's slash part of the federal budget or b. is going to are they going to end up you know the senate for example here in reid could take any one of the bills in the house is replace the entire text of one sentence that says the debt ceiling is fourteen trillion dollars send back the house and dare them where you think's going to happen well i think some deal will probably be worked out but to be honest as a member of the tea party are very proud the tea party members of the house and senate for fighting back not rolling over and when you look at the plans i mean
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they both have commissions and they both cut about just over seven hundred billion over the next ten years they're really not that far apart we're talking about politics here and the president never had a play and he never put a plan on the table but the house and senate have a plan right now and the only big difference is a link to that limit increase it's something they can probably work out obviously the house has a provision about a balanced budget amendment which is not going to be in any final agreement any of the economy's in the tank and both of these plans are cutting government spending and we know from the states is that twenty four states that cut government spending have all seen unemployment go up in g.d.p. go down to twenty five states that have increased taxes increased government spending in the last year and a half almost two and a half years have seen g.d.p. go up and unemployment go down i mean this and you know this is the end you don't see again shared responsibility shared sacrifice you know you say good government spending is cutting but you will get conservative and liberal governors and mayors of states and city managers will say well we're not so good i got
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a teacher's i've got a farm and that if i release office i've got an infrastructure and let's go and you know it was interesting and i think this is also a point one of the reasons that this pay as i got to the tea party was because banner brought in tea party members and said you know what i'll cut that project and earmark you won't get your. you had all of these tea party members that had earmarks that they didn't like initially and he called them and says i'll cut him if you don't vote for me that's how that bill got passed so he finally he finally was playing hardball. domestic terrorism the change topics here we saw mr brodrick now or breivik or however he says his name the norwegian terrorist. with with crosses all over his fifteen hundred page manifesto. he would
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apparently block the high capacity clips that he used to murder all these people from the u.s. and this is after after congresswoman giffords was shot and democrats were calling for an end to these past eclipse and her republican said no way we're not going to and i'm going to do away with these clips. are we at you know has the united states become like you know death and destruction coming shop here but first of all i think we shall think a moment and pray for the life of the individuals that lost their lives in this terrible tragedy but yet again the liberals take this one incident may want to impose gun control in america when they seem not to understand that having a well armed populace is the best way to fight people like this was a battle and this is what the democratic congresswoman carolyn maloney said about this is that there should be a lot of shame we're sending a death warrant to other parts of the well we should be not be ashamed of the amount of freedom we have in this country and the fact is you know the freedom to
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defend yourself the freedom to have a gun in defend yourself against somebody just like this because the bad guys the always look at the gun free zones that happened in fort hood why would we want to create economically joe why why why. why the pressure to create circumstances that create such huge disparities in wealth that anybody feels like they need to protect themselves well that's a very deep. question to you bass i like to go back to the original point you asked go and that is the special ammunition i mean we we don't need that kind of ammunition in this country and i'm pretty much on your side i'm not opposed to citizens owning owning guns either much and when when you start getting more ammunition that police officers say you know and they're the first responders standing crime to be quite honest they should be and they say look we
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got to get rid of this and you and you don't there's another thought that we've been sharing on my show and you mentioned. having guns those students that was a kid scam you don't arm a kids camp veg i chose those folks because they were children and anybody out here would who wants to do damage can do the same exact thing here's another for maybe we are to start. profiling. white europeans. the way we profiled those limbs european ancestry people according to f.b.i. account for nine hours so you know i said all the time even somewhat tongue in cheek but i you know we don't hesitate to profile muslims or african americans well i'm not i'm not at all tongue in cheek on this let me throw this to
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you vince this week in the united states we had a terrorist incident we had a fire bomb that was thrown into a building by a white presumably a white christian we don't know but you know that's the profile typically of people who who are bombing quite imperative that oh no it's not always this is not as i said getting to know you didn't look like al sharpton you know go ahead do you really. mean is that that doesn't necessarily equate to but here's the question you know i look at the news coverage of this in fact we've got you know sixty seconds assads which i'm not going to run here because i don't want to cut into your time but but we we played in free deal last night on the show we played all the news coverage of the firebombing of the planned parenthood clinic which was not an abortion clinic it was place where women got mammograms and things and and never did they mention the word terrorist and then this muslim guy gets busted with some guns and bombs and all of a sudden the word terrorist is appearing in every other sentence why the double standard you know it's sometimes it is hard to say the media tends to pick up things at different paces and then in terms of what's within somebody's purview and
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how the media reads you know whether or not it be interesting to people it changes all the time or because what i find interesting i do agree with you tom i find it interesting and it and shocking but you know if you if you were if this was a white christian. as the christian right was a profile it was a christian it wouldn't really stand the test of being christian wouldn't it i mean if he was pro-life it's a muslim in their bed and they're doing nine eleven they don't they don't exist in the profile of you know most of what you have is a situation where somebody stupidly and truthfully it's crazy the idea of the. this was the story a diesel filled bottle thrown at this place now if you check if you see the coverage they did exist they did act they did actually speak to the woman who's in charge of this planned parenthood clinic and she said that this was a great exception to anything they've ever dealt with and said that in the past ten years they haven't experienced anything like this and the worst that they felt has been prophy granted still wrong but nothing like this and what more then something
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is wrong with that argument that she was talking about her place but there are examples after examples i mean we've heard of presidents or even yes we've had we've had in the church because they were we've had we've had. a. bomb threats and attacks so it's a little disingenuous because she was talking about her particular location and history is replete with individuals who have done terrorist attacks i as an african-american sitting here know the history of the ku klux klan which used christianity as the basis of their terror is arguably the largest terrorist in our definitions history right by launching this discussion the idea that this was a profile a white christian what you're doing is ideologically time every white christian some sort of this like you would ideologically tie every muslim by point anymore.
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over one hundred year and these are christian extremists is well over one hundred members of the house of representatives has signed a letter to the attorney general saying enough already with these voter id laws these laws are so far had. apparently disenfranchise some twenty million americans at least ten million americans and yet voter fraud in quotes in george bush's administration did a five year war on voter fraud in fact the federal prosecutors who wouldn't prosecute voter fraud because they couldn't find evidence so. several of them resign or get fired five year war and voter fraud and in any given year he never found more than twenty incidences and never found more than three that could actually be prosecuted because most of them were people who spell their name wrong or had moved in forgotten a file or a voter fraud happens one tenth one one hundredth as frequently as people getting struck by lightning is this really worth knocking twenty million people off the voting rolls particularly people who are elderly people who are urban or people who
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are students college students because that's the target of these laws well i think the target of these laws is to make it so that you have a secure voting place and you go do your own idea in your vote i vote in d.c. i've never been asked for and i don't but there is no voter fraud well you don't know that it's in part it's very hard to find voter for oh it's very high so it's quite easy oh no no no i have this argument not no no no look the way voted for look you're talking to somebody who registered over five hundred thousand people during the reagan administration you can find voter fraud because people who work at voting polls report any potential for usually to the city clerk then reports it to the secretary of state it is not difficult to find voter fraud this is suppression right now the in west in west concent seventy one thousand african-american men are disenfranchised because of a single stroke of the pin by their governor i proposed on my show today that there
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ought to be a mark in from milwaukee to madison wisconsin symbolic of the march from selma to montgomery this is nothing more than a tip because you can't said this not only in voter fraud oh all of a sudden in florida you can't vote several days in advance you can't vote on a sunday are you kidding me you don't care the house does a week's worth of holding they're consolidating the voting to reload interior design is that race is. that i use the word result when you're eyeing bill. because you know no i'm not a mark it's the designs i didn't buy that i implied that i didn't imply anything seventy one thousand people are disenfranchised and i'm saying to you this is voter suppression i have right now in my black berry a white farmer in wisconsin who says that you've got farmers who are who don't have state id and the nearest place to go get is seventy two miles
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away that's voter suppression in this country you do not make it more difficult for people to vote you should make it easier reiver suppression to force people to get a driver's license before they get i'm the one who taught me what should you be rich enough to own a car in order to vote vets every level of government involvement there is an idea except for when you go to vote it's just the only place and matter of fact at the at the polls that's where you are in fact i'm enjoying myself with the government when i walk on street and in any public place area that you walk into your involving yourself with when you interact and you know this isn't just going to have proof of widespread voter fraud was going away prove it fewer than twenty cases here and george bush spent millions of dollars looking for this in two thousand and two thousand this is again you do not make it more difficult you make it as easy as possible for people to vote and it is not hard to root out voter fraud we can it's done all the time we have to go to a quick for question here ninety seconds just
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a quick answer here will john boehner finish one hundred twelfth congress as the speaker of the us yes right i think he will clearly he's had a difficult time with his caucus fighting with his caucus on this bill but i think his caucus will rally behind him and he will stay speaker you know yes he will but yes he will space and he will be he will be with. your people your. particular party thought and when the party's over you guys will have a hell of a over. the coming two weeks are really going to dictate whether or not john boehner can. staying on as speaker of the house i think that we're really going to see at least a challenge he may or may not finish ok and i put the odds of fifty fifty there is a there's going to be a at to brute a moment painter looks over and cantor's got the show was well of course a metaphor for. college days joe madison brian darling thank you all for being here with us tonight. after the break move over party you know the party of destruction
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as the rains in the house and i believe take i'll tell you how the tea party gained enough power to grow our economy. twenty four seven live streaming what to do about the ongoing financial hardship unlimited free high quality videos for download. and stories you may never find on main street. or the. political. post and more are too dark. for.
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the corporations created a monster that monsters a group of ideologies that of wormed their way into congress and now have the power to take down our entire economy and condemn all of us to a second great depression make no mistake about it we have an established third party in congress today for the first time in over one hundred years. the tea party zombies it's a third party based on political naivete and irresponsible idealism and corrupted morality it's a third party that thinks compromise is a bad word i think that they yell and threaten nuff they can get the democratically controlled senate and white house to bend to their will it's a party that thinks it's on a mission to crash the economy thus setting the stage to ras to clean remake
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america and trash the new deal economics that have created the last century's prosperity and replace it with a libertarian free market that has defined the last century of for example somalia it's a third party that believes in iran rand that the poor the sick the elderly should be condemned to death for the social safety net one of the greatest accomplishments of modern man is evil you know i john boehner had to pull his debt limit plan off the floor of the main reasons because the tea party went nuts over l. grades as in no way no how will they support a bill that helps students go to college we can no longer believes the tea party is controlled by republicans the tea party is on its own now running roughshod through congress as we've witnessed in this debt limit debate and even john boehner knows this himself by now and what republicans and the rest of us need to ask ourselves
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today is how did this happen how did it constitutional democracy or a group of destructive ideologues to take power in congress and drag our country in economic ruin what happened well citizens united. as i discussed in chapter eleven in my book on equal protection the supreme court's citizens united decision in january of two thousand and ten fundamentally changed american politics it laid the groundwork for the tea party crazies to come to power . the roberts court reversed a century of electoral law and kept corporations from meddling in our politics and kept them ocracy in the hands of the people and instead they handed over our democracy to the highest bidder through trust fund millionaires to hedge fund billionaires and transnational corporations under the assumption that corporations are real people just like you and me five right wingers on this side court ruled
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that corporations also have free speech rights like you and me and those can tap into their quarter war chests and spend unlimited amounts of money distorting our elections and once their ruling came down from chief justice roberts corporations wasted no time at all making which candidates they would throw their millions behind to unseat democrats around the country and once and for all try to put an end to the things that they hate like health care reform wall street reform energy reform to once and for all turn him around into a corporatocracy tea party folks the big billionaire funders behind them purposefully paper low i.q. politicians who had no experience in governance who had no sense of the constitution or american history and who have no understanding of basic economics why because they'd be the easiest to mold may be the easiest to convince that the corporate ideology is the right ideology after half of the campaign checks high
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powered political junkets and reeducation camps and five star hotels and resorts these tea party politicians brought and bought with their corporate overlords lords were selling they became true believers afterall billionaires must know what they're talking about how else to think you know what money. what citizens united did is a lot of corporations to make an investment in american politics and as you'd expect these billionaires invested wisely creating a new army of gullible tea party soldiers who came to capitol hill in the beginning of the year on a mission to protect corporate interests at all costs even if it meant crashing the economy protect subsidies for billionaire oil corporations protect tax loopholes for billionaire jet owners protect loopholes that let billionaire transnational corporations ship american jobs overseas and do not compromise no matter what the other side says no matter what the economists say and most importantly no matter
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what the american people say ironically that even means ignoring the grassroots american people who once called themselves tea partiers not only are the tea party numbers dwindling around the country but the overwhelming majority of self described tea partiers are opposed to the corporate agenda that's on the march in washington today that's left just the zombies in suits in congress who call the tea party. we have a third party that in america created not by the people but by money in his dissent against majority ruling in citizens united justice stevens predicted exactly what we see unfolding today he wrote corporate domination of electioneering can generate the impression that corporations dominate our democracy citizens may lose faith in their capacity to influence public policy or government captured by corporate interests they may come to believe will be neither responsive to their needs or
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willing to give their views a fair hearing. this week the switchboards on capitol hill went down after the president encouraged americans to call their members of congress and push for a demo debt limit deal and yet the corporate tea party didn't listen they pushed ahead with their agenda to crash the economy slash government spending and lay off people bring it all down it's not a coincidence that the most dysfunctional destructive an unresponsive congress in the history of this nation is this congress the first congress elected after the supreme court's citizens united decision even if this third party of destruction does not succeed in crashing the economy this time around and the debt ceiling is raised the damage has already been done the american people have lost faith and the rest of the world thinks we've lost the ability to govern ourselves and i can only hope this means we're close to a tipping point at this debt limit debate is what wakes up america to the thirty year assault on the middle class by corporations and the billionaires they create
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corporations that grew impatient with the slow moving republican establishment and thanks to citizens united he said to throw their weight and money behind the radicalized tea party hell bent on bringing a painful transformation to america right now this is happening right now and if we don't get out there and get active and fight back they will destroy our nation it's time to strip corporations of their personhood and make sure they'll never again be able to run dozens of manchurian candidates who have no idea what it means to be a statesman or stateswoman. that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we've covered visit our website to tom hartman dot com free speech dot org. you can also check out our two youtube or once it's on arbonne dot com this entire show is also available as a free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free to all have an i phone or i pad app in the app store you can send us feedback to twitter and underscore our of it on facebook at tom others who are been
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